Pot limit omaha hand what to do?

[busto4life]

Playing some $1/$2 pot limit omaha at NoiQpoker last night when I had played this hand and im still not sure if I did the correct decission.

We are playing 6 handed and I have a loose image as I have picked up lot of good hands and bet them strongly after the flop, thought havent gone to showdown too often so people might think im bluffing more then having great hands.

Anyway I get dealt in the first position 9 :spade: 6 :spade: 5 :diamond: 3 :heart: in my opinion this is a hand that should be played every time even from first position, does someone have different thoughts? So I raise it to $7 and get called by button who is a good player with $300 stack (I have bit more) everybody else folds so its two of us to flop: 7 :heart: 6 :heart: 3:diamond: so I hit bottom two pair and some straight draws, in my opinion I have to bet hand like this every time so I bet $14 into $17 pot which he calls.

We go to turn which brings 2 :spade: now I bet $38 to $45 and he decides to raise to $100. What should I do? This is not very big raise and he doesnt have that much money left after the raise. Also its very unlikely the 2 changed anything as its hard to see him having lot of hands that would justify calling the flop and had 2 in them.

[MrIvey1985]

Well, first of all, I am not active member of this sub forum, but you seem to discuss tactics more, so i decided to take a peek :)

FWIW, I don't play that hand in any position except as a pure bluff... There are not that many flops good for you, and really don't see why do you think you should play this hand every time in any position. Can you offer any reasoning for it?

As played...

Perhaps he has 3 4 in his hand and decided to slowplay you on the flop? Not very standard but perhaps he is playing it safe, or has heart flush draw as well, so he is not to afraid to let you see the next card. When turn bricks (2 really hardly changes anything) he decides to put money in. Again, strange line, but not completely impossible. Bottom two is not very strong anyway. I say fold, and perhaps stop playing marginal hands pf? Just may opinion, nothing personal :) Cheers!

[busto4life]

First of all thank you for contributing :) Everybody else is as well welcome to write in these strategy threads as well, even if they dont play the same size games. You learn so much about poker simply about thinking about different situations.

To be honest, I just love this type of hands which can hit low straights and have some redraws also. Obviously the problem is that you often get in really tricky situations as this one, and as said not sure if it is correct to play this from early positions. From button I play this 100% of the time if no-one has raised, simply because you can steal so many blinds and bluff them out on flop if they decide to call out of position.

Actually my thought process about his possible hands was very similiar to yours, if he is a scared player he might be just taking a cheap card and flop and hoping to put more money on turn if he still figures he has the best hand. The other option was that he had so strong hand that he wished to me to hang myself (rather likely as I had a loose image). For those reasons I decided to fold the turn even though I was getting OK odds and there was the outside chance he might be on bluff/semi-bluff.

[MrIvey1985]

It's a correct fold, because the only thing you really beat is a pure bluff. Good fold :)

[Lakymann8]

To be honest, I'm kind of... suprised about your confusion. I personally consider bottom two pairs as a very, very weak hand even in Texas Hold'em. I see literally hundreds of players getting busted out of tournaments and losing lots of cash every day just because they overplayed their low two pairs.

I think that in that hand he just trapped you very nicely. In my opinion, biggest problem with your hand was, that most of yours outs were his outs as well. I would put him on top set/set of sixes or flopped straight.

If he had that set, possible six or three on river would improve his had to 7's full or even quads sixes, so that left you with 4 outs (and that's just theoretical maximum), so staying in that hand would be a huge mistake.

If he really flopped a straight, you would have just four outs for winning and probably four outs for split pot (there is also possibility, that he has or would have higher straight).

Maybe you should really stay out of hand like that next time :)

[14kovo474]

firstly i wouldnt called it preflop...
secondly , u said eh was a good player... so i would be not very happy about his call on the turn... i dunno waht was the play on the river, so i think i cannot say any more tho

[enedbull]

i would fold that one! Really don't understand why did u even go in to the pot with that hand! yeah u have some straight cards but not even all connected, two flush card (9 high, doesnt help u), and that's all! If u play that loosely all the time, it's byebye for u'r bankroll!

[chankie]

Well off the flop you had bottom two with a straight possibility and ont he turn you got a flush draw. his raise didn't seem much, but your hand could be dominated in many ways, he may already have a straight, a set, a better flush draw or higher two pair... would fold, maybe thats just me.

[RiksRaks]

Anyway I get dealt in the first position 9 6 5 3 in my opinion this is a hand that should be played every time even from first position, does someone have different thoughts?


foldfoldfold!! you shouldn't play that hand!! you think that's a good hand when your'e raising with it? :eek:

[BadWolfOne]

9653 a goot hand in omaha? maybe in hi/lo but the 9 ruins it , i prefere cards in sequence like 5678, you got a lot of posibilities of straight and you got backup against counterfiting at the low part, 3 spades on the table, very bad, he could have A-x of spades in his hand and you are done, also he could have a 4-6 / 4-5 wich would give him straight with a 2 and also beat you, just fold this hand , it's no good , i didnt even concider in this hand he could have 22 for set wich alse beats you

this is omaha , if there are a lot of posibilities that you are beat than you are shurly beat